I’ve been looking at SENuke recently – and their business model in particular. Great product, crappy price.
I understand that there is a lot of work gone into this, and charging $100+ (depending on the version you want) for the first month is very reasonable for the feature set.
But every month after that as well? Let’s take a look at what that $100+ covers?
1. Updates to the program.
2. High affiliate commission
3. Captcha breakers (depending on which version you get).
And that’s why my beef with the cost starts.
1. Why should I pay that cost for a piece of software which has a great feature set in one place, but keep on paying that same high price just to cover field names that have changed, or a change in URL, or similar details? The level of maintenance needed to adapt to those things is much easier than writing the software in the first place. Particuarly if the software is designed with that adaptability in mind right from the start.
2. Why should I keep on paying half that fee to an affiliate? The benefit of the high residual commission is that there are a lot of affiliates promoting SENuke. Just try searching for a review that doesn’t give it 5 out of 5, and actually criticises the software. You’ll be lucky to find one.
3. If I’m not a heavy user, why should I pay a relatively high price for an army of people to break captcha codes, when there are third-party services that offer the same service for $2 (US dollars) for 1000 entries? At the rate I’m likely to use the software, that 1000 entries will last well over a month, probably 2-3 months. But I understand that some people will churn through that many captchas in a week or less. That’s fine – but let them bear the brunt of that cost.
So… I’m writing my own software that will end up doing much (but not necessarily all) of what SEnuke does. And it wil have the following benefits:
1. Higher cost for the first month, but a very low cost for maintenance thereafter.
2. No affiliate commission after the first month. Anybody who links to the program is more likely to be doing it because it’s a good piece of software, not because they are earning a high residual income.
3. The captcha breaking plugs into a third-party service using YOUR account details, so you only pay for the volume you need.
I’ll be offering this at a VERY low cost to begin with, since it won’t do very much. And once a customer subscribes, they’ll get it at that same cost from then on. As I add more features, the first-month cost and the ongoing monthly costs will rise appropriately, with the first month cost rising by more than then monthly costs.
So anyone who purchases when I first release it will get a great bargain, even if they have to wait a while to get the full feature set.
I’ve created the bare bones of the software already. I can create Gmail and delicious accounts hands-free, with the third-party doing the captcha resolution.
Oh – and one more nice thing about my software. You can minimise the Internet Explorer window during this process, or bring another window to the foreground to work on it. Something that you can’t do with SENuke – you have to leave the window full-size and on-top, so you can’t do anything else at the same time.
Neat, eh?
So if you’re interested, subscribe to this blog or my mailing list. Email subscribers and existing customers will get first go at the software, and I will be limiting numbers initially.
The reason for this is that I want to spend my time adding features, not resolving the types of issues that occur when you roll out a piece of software onto people’s PCs, where they have XP/Windows NT/Vista/Macs emulating XP, .net installed/not installed/out of date, etc, etc, etc.
Please put me on your list for your SENuke type software.
Thanks,
Frank Newman
how are you getting on with this? one feature that you’ll need if you want to compete with senuke is the ability to automatically create jet spinner syntax. They use a plug in to contentboss, but you can actually get the same thing free (as long as you have a contentboss account) at autojetspinner.com.
Hi Ralph,
Getting there. Just bear in mind, it’s going to be some time before I do everything (if I can even manage everything) that SENuke does. Initially it’ll be just socialbookmarking account creation and the actual bookmarking.
Andy
good luck with it, rome wasn’t built in a day.
Thanks Ralph. You’re right. It’s important in software to get the framework in place from the beginning, so that one can then “drop-in” functionality which neatly fits into the framework. Otherwise one ends up having to re-write major chunks of code just to add one little feature.
Regards,
Andy
I’m interested in this as well. Your opinions regarding the senuke pricing model mirrors mine almost exactly.
I know software programmers deserve to get paid for their work, but going overboard is a bit much. I guess like most greedy corporate thinking, you can charge what the market will bear, and seems like enough people are willing to pay that to keep them going…
hey andrew,
i am very interested in that software.
when do you think you can release the first version?
Hi TrustAdvert,
Nearly missed your comment, as it went into the Akisment spam comments folder!
I’m working hard at it – I’m planning on having it out during August (probably nearer the end). But remember, it’s just the smallest piece of functionality I can build to prove that everything I want to do will work OK, and which will put the framework in place to very quickly add future features. So the first version won’t do much, but it’ll be cheap!
Andy
Please add me to your list for your SE Nuke like software at a better price…
Orlando
Hi Orlando,
The list for this is my standard list, via the subscription form to the top-left of this page. I don’t like subscribing people normally, but as you asked nicely…
The confirmation email from GetResponse should be on the way to you – you’ll need to click the link in the email to confirm your subscription.
Regards,
Andy
Hi Andrew,
This looks really interesting stuff. I’m also a big fan of SENuke but also annoyed at the pricing model. I think you’re heading in the right direction.
What Captcha breaking service are you implementing? I’m currently checking out various options so if you’ve got one that you have faith in (I presume you must do if you’re adding it into this software) I’d love to know the details.
Cheers,
Andy
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the feedback.
Regarding the captcha-breaking service, it’s no great secret – decaptcher.com. Cheap, accurate in my testing, with a few methods of integrating with them.
Regards,
Andy
Thanks. Somehow I’d actually not heard of those guys so I appreciate it!
Cheers,
Andy
Hi,
Any update about this? I’m very interested
I would love to get a more affordable version of SeNuke alternative. I used SeNuke for 6 month. The think is that if you are a small business 1-2 people, between developing site marketing and more you just do not use it as enough to justify the cost per month after first 2-3 month. Please keep me updated!
Tried Senuke nice bit of software but far too expensive, add me to your list of prospects, thank your very much.
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